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A Single Collective Storage
« on: 2012 06 11, 19:06:08 »
I just got this idea... The collective storage in Spawntown is already vastly bigger than what is needed, so... Instead of regions building their own collective storages, we could have just public storages in them, and a SINGLE collective storage, which would be the one in Spawntown.
Instead of storing your items in your regions (in collective storages with private chests), your private chests would be here in the Spawntown one, so I can graph them easily every Thursday.

Good things:
Makes graphing the economy of all of our collective storages much easier with no travel required. Makes it possible to make rules on how we distribute the contributions we make to the economic polls in the public voting center.

Bad things:
Everyone will have to travel to Spawntown to deposit and retrieve the items in the collective storage. Potentially, they could be requested and sent by cargo rails by Bla with some delay ofc, but this could be risky.

The alternative to this could be that people themselves would have to graph the items in their collective storages every Thursday if they want to use collective storages and not just have everything being public. I think it's a problem that we only have statistics for the Spawntown one, and it always seems to be that one which usually provides the items to our projects. In the current state the collective storages seem a bit more like private shelters for items rather than what they were intended for - helping everyone with their big projects. So in short, probably one of these alternatives will have to happen:

1: Everyone will have to at least provide data on what is stored in their collective storage every Thursday.
2: Everyone will have to provide Bla with the coordinates of their collective storage so he can tp there every Thursday to collect data on the items. (Bla is not very amused of this)

Discuss.
And if you don't like the idea, please consider alternatives and whether the idea is better than the alternatives.
« Last Edit: 2012 06 11, 19:44:02 by Bla »

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #1 on: 2012 06 11, 19:25:47 »
I don't like this... It's too spawntown centric.
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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #2 on: 2012 06 11, 19:49:22 »
Yes, the economy would be extremely centralized with this system... Spawntown makes most sense to me because the town has a very central location compared to other towns and in the rail system, but other ideas are welcome.
I think it could work okay with cargo lines. You should be able to get your items delivered to your area within a day if you just request them in a PM or something, and you could send items to the storage. With new working plugins I can see what people take from chests, so I should be able to see if people take the items from cargo chests.

Anyway, I updated the post, please consider the alternatives as well or any other alternatives you may have.

Because we have no transparency in the economy currently, and I won't let it continue this way.

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #3 on: 2012 06 11, 21:31:06 »
Well, for cargo lines, we'd need to set up more of them, currently only Desertopia has a direct cargo line to Spawntown. The fact that we don't need so many boosters now helps.

I'm going to be setting mine up soon between Kaeshar and Spawntown.

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #4 on: 2012 06 12, 00:22:29 »
1. We could have an ender chest when it comes out and find a time when your on Bla.
2. Like, is there a percentage of something you have to give to the collective storage, because I'm like low on everything except for pumpkins. (~20 stacks).
3. When we put it in the collective, the chest are locked there, so do we put it in a chest? Or do you make a chest that only yourself and Bla can acsess?
4. What happened in Zuntriio? Did someone steal all the sandstone or something? I just took what a mined, but if thats not ok I can give it back.

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #5 on: 2012 06 12, 00:56:29 »
I explained on the Ubox thread.

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #6 on: 2012 06 12, 00:57:35 »
All of them? Oh. I must;ve forgotten.

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #7 on: 2012 06 12, 01:03:22 »
All of them? Oh. I must;ve forgotten.

I explained what happened in Zuntriio, didn't answer the other questions of yours though.

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #8 on: 2012 06 12, 01:13:43 »
Oh. So Bla is *not* going to try to catch the person who did it. That's resonable; why waste your own time when someone else did it?

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #9 on: 2012 06 12, 10:16:41 »
inb4 bla claims all resources as his own
inb4 blacraft becomes bla-only

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #10 on: 2012 06 12, 10:57:45 »
Oh. So Bla is *not* going to try to catch the person who did it. That's resonable; why waste your own time when someone else did it?
I'm the only one who has the tools to find out who did it.

inb4 bla claims all resources as his own
inb4 blacraft becomes bla-only
This is silly and I don't know which alternate reality you base it on.

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« Reply #11 on: 2012 06 12, 20:30:10 »
So are you going to or are you not?

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #12 on: 2012 06 12, 20:36:39 »
I'm not going to do it now. It depends on whether Naru want me to continue the investigation, I guess he does. Maybe I'll continue some time in the future. In any case I shouldn't say too much in public about investigations like this.

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #13 on: 2012 12 09, 03:01:25 »
how about ender chests are basically extended collective storage, with the requirement that the person have to take out the items upon a spawntown poll

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Re: A Single Collective Storage
« Reply #14 on: 2012 12 09, 03:42:09 »
nah, the current system works fine for me now