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Collective Storages
« on: 2012 06 07, 14:19:41 »
Use this Google Document if you have a collective storage:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhyGV27WETcEdHZLNHU1LWN5eEhEbVlDQ0laUWQzc2c#gid=8

Collective storages are described in 3.2 in the Law of the Union of Blacraft Socialist Regions.

This is a copy of the sheet from July 14, 2013 (which makes it easier to see the items we had before adding a lot of items to the lists, also has a backup of the comments sheet which isn't in the current version):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhyGV27WETcEdHVTUXhiUGIyYUxRa09rQWxMNmV6ZlE#gid=10
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« Reply #1 on: 2012 06 19, 20:22:00 »
Bla y u no go to math class? It have no tittle/key.

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« Reply #2 on: 2012 06 20, 14:42:47 »
Meh I don't like it messing with the lines. But it will be added tomorrow.

I have many Thursday statistics and I don't spend a lot of time making the graphs live up to standards set by my teachers. I just make them so that I understand them myself, that's all I need. But since these are going public I can do it.

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« Reply #3 on: 2012 06 21, 11:31:11 »
Updated, with Desertopia and Oasis City as well now.

Also, Spawntown Public Storage will no longer have diamonds, because people keep using them at a rate which isn't sustainable. Maybe that will change in the future, but currently, no.

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« Reply #4 on: 2012 06 21, 12:36:52 »
uhhh, wuts that rerally colorful line at the botum?

Also, im fine with the diamonds thing, i have 22 i mined.

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« Reply #5 on: 2012 06 21, 18:52:25 »
uhhh, wuts that rerally colorful line at the botum?

It's actually two lines which are on top of each other, the black one (kind of has a bluish tint to it) is obsidian and the orange is glowstone.

Bla, the updated one doesn't really seem to register the diamond that I have in there.

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« Reply #6 on: 2012 06 22, 00:36:44 »
The graph is only Spawntown Collective Storage, I won't put the other graphs in there before in some weeks at least.

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« Reply #7 on: 2012 09 06, 03:24:10 »
plaidania has no official kollektive storage

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« Reply #8 on: 2012 12 04, 23:36:55 »
So I have like some glowstone in my potions lab.
Do i have to put that in my collective and go all the way back to my building every time i build, or what?!

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« Reply #9 on: 2012 12 05, 00:21:19 »
So I have like some glowstone in my potions lab.
Do i have to put that in my collective and go all the way back to my building every time i build, or what?!

Is it in a public or private chest? I don't think you neccesarily need to put everything in the collective storage and since we know you do lots of potioning, it's probably fine.

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« Reply #10 on: 2012 12 05, 00:22:08 »
Yay really? Ok, just waiting for Bla reply to make suuure.

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« Reply #11 on: 2012 12 06, 14:47:23 »
So I have like some glowstone in my potions lab.
Do i have to put that in my collective and go all the way back to my building every time i build, or what?!
If the chest in your potion lab is publicly accessible to UBSR members, you can keep the glowstone in there.

Storing glowstone outside collective storages without it being public isn't allowed. If you need glowstone for potions often I'd recommend building a potion lab next to the collective storage. Or making the chest public if it isn't.

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« Reply #12 on: 2012 12 08, 19:19:31 »
okay.

Oh, and can i update it Saturday, or do i update it Friday night? yqt1001 says i have to update it Friday night, but you said Saturday. And its confusing because tiem zones.

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« Reply #13 on: 2012 12 09, 02:22:58 »
friday night for you = saturday morning for bla

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« Reply #14 on: 2012 12 09, 03:44:47 »
oh yeah...
okay ill remember to update friday nght from now on

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« Reply #15 on: 2012 12 09, 13:20:34 »
It doesn't matter if you update it Thursday or Friday night as long as you don't store or remove items from it between that time and Saturday. As long as it's updated on Saturday it's fine, but it would be nicest if you would include a note in the document on how you update it if you don't always keep it updated. Because then the "now" title is misleading.

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« Reply #16 on: 2012 12 09, 17:05:27 »
Or could i just put a note saying when it is last updated? (now)

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« Reply #17 on: 2012 12 10, 16:06:03 »
You can do that, but it still has to be updated on Saturday, so if it says Thursday when I graph it on Saturday, I expect that you will not have changed the storage since Thursday.

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« Reply #18 on: 2012 12 11, 00:04:06 »
OH i get it now!
Thanks for clearing it up. :)

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« Reply #19 on: 2012 12 15, 04:06:03 »
i am unable to update the collective storage on time because it the login server was down for whatever reason and it only recently went up and now it is time to sleep so i will update it tommorow on saturday instead.

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« Reply #20 on: 2012 12 15, 05:47:07 »
Yeah, I don't know what was going on, another DDoS?....

I updated mine though over an hour ago.

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« Reply #21 on: 2012 12 15, 12:27:05 »
??
i got on like 2200 EST dunnno about the login servers

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« Reply #22 on: 2012 12 15, 18:25:02 »
Ok, please update the 20121215 column as well if so it has the correct values for Saturday.

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« Reply #23 on: 2012 12 15, 21:43:51 »
yeah its fixed now

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« Reply #24 on: 2013 01 22, 06:17:05 »
hey bla can you add this to the first post

protip: this week i stopped counting stone, so everyone except guodesia dropped.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqSvCC8xs0NzdFhBeTRKRmZHd2VuMVR1bEdNemNERlE#gid=0

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« Reply #25 on: 2013 01 22, 09:47:52 »
I don't think it really carries any information. I could just put 300k cactus in the collective storage or so and say I make up 99% of the economy. Your statistics don't take into account that materials have different values and that the ones which are graphed are just the tip of the iceberg. Many people store non-graphed items in collective storages or keep many things which aren't graphed in public storages. You can't calculate the "role" of an area in Blacraft from your data.

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« Reply #26 on: 2013 01 22, 21:19:37 »
protip: i know all that you mommy
protip: it's only counting the stuff supposed in the collective storage, excluding stone
protip: it's not supposed to be all official and scientific and completely reasoned out
protip: it's more because i wanted to see the absolute values than the worth of blacraft
« Last Edit: 2013 01 22, 21:23:08 by Darvince »

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« Reply #27 on: 2013 02 03, 16:50:50 »
Spawntown ran out of cobblestone a while back so I opened up my small cobblestone reserve for people to use. After a month or so of 2 people taking nearly non-stop I am basically out. Can we add cobblestone to the collective storage? Or am I going to have to smelt all of mine to save the little reserve I have left.

People are too lazy to simply get a pickaxe and mine a bit. It's saddening.

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« Reply #28 on: 2013 02 03, 16:54:05 »
Yes, we can add cobblestone then.

I am disappointed to see this. We (that would be you, because I am too lazy) could check the logs to see who did something this greedy towards our economy. :b

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« Reply #29 on: 2013 02 03, 18:00:45 »
I think i have approx. maybe 150 stacks of cobble in my collective storage building. So yay, i don't have to add more chest. wow we're actually low on cobble, maybe we should have monthly quarry digs from now on. jk

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« Reply #30 on: 2013 02 03, 18:17:29 »
I don't store cobble in the collective storage since it wasn't neccesary to, but I have at least 6+ large chests full of cobble (some in the warehouse, some in the mines, and some scattered elsewhere), so I'm not even close to a shortage of cobble.

I can easily spare a large chest or two, or three to put into collective storage.

Seriously though, how can people be low on cobble? Not that hard to create a quarry.

"maybe we should have monthly quarry digs from now on."

Maybe not monthly, but yeah having quarry digs would be a great idea. Theres several around, Kipz has his massive quarry, Narus cafe/station thing still needs to be quarried out, and I have my quarry.

Mine could be a bit problematic though because theres some big caverns down there, so better wear feather falling boots. Lava shouldn't be an issue.

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« Reply #31 on: 2013 02 03, 18:18:41 »
I checked and Spawntown still has 3 large chests of cobble plus a bit more. Still very disappointing, though.

We should probably increase the role of collective storages in the future.

Also, if you want to dig simply for the cobble, strip mining sounds like a much better idea to me. Gives you lots of cobble plus all the goodies.

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« Reply #32 on: 2013 02 03, 18:29:03 »
Well, I have been thinking of expanding the strip mine I already have, but not sure infrastructure wise.

The hopper carts and stuff in 1.5 (still hoping they'll put in some kind of high speed rail thing) will definetly help with the mining infrastructure.

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« Reply #33 on: 2013 02 03, 19:36:09 »
Pros

Strip Mining: Ores, sometimes hit caves, ravines, etc. Lava pools too.

Quarrying: Large building areas. Get's sand and sandstone depending on where you are.


So, strip mining would be for ores, quarrying would be for development and sand/sandstone.

Btw when i just started Blacraft I called quarry's "cory".





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« Reply #34 on: 2013 02 03, 20:15:48 »
But the sand and sandstone is separate from the stone unlike ores, if you're doing it for the sand and sandstone you might as well just quarry without going below the sandstone layer.

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« Reply #35 on: 2013 02 03, 20:24:21 »
There really is no point quarrying for stone if you are going for sand and sandstone. Yes, cobblestone is a byproduct of a sandstone quarry if you do it the quick and cheaty way. Nonetheless, in the amount of time it takes to get a few stacks of sandstone, you'd likely get 10-30 diamonds and a chest of cobblestone branch mining.

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« Reply #36 on: 2013 02 04, 14:29:40 »
wait what it's possible for spawntown to run low on cobble of all things? :o

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« Reply #37 on: 2013 02 04, 16:31:58 »
Apparently, I haven't been active for months after all, but yes, someone else must be sitting with quite a pile of cobble. Or related things.

* Bla suspiciously glances at vh's 30k stone!

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« Reply #38 on: 2013 02 04, 19:54:55 »
most of that was mined from the desertopia quarry thing, and i was going to use it for building something but it seems not anymore so yeah i guess i'll make it public

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« Reply #39 on: 2013 02 04, 20:02:54 »
Apparently, I haven't been active for months after all, but yes, someone else must be sitting with quite a pile of cobble. Or related things.

* Bla suspiciously glances at vh's 30k stone!

There was a rush of taking cobblestone from spawntown before it ran out. I think almost everyone did it to some extent, I took 3 small chests worth to use on roads back in early December, all of the excess cobble that I had from then has since been taken from my public storage.

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« Reply #40 on: 2013 02 04, 22:34:57 »
Mudkipz keeps thinking that he can store anything he wants in his collective storage (and he does also :P ). Bla, your opinion?

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« Reply #41 on: 2013 02 04, 22:37:27 »
i've only thought about it once today. make that twice now.

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« Reply #42 on: 2013 02 05, 03:52:34 »
I have taken at most 2 stacks of cobblestone from Spawntown since school 2012-13 began.

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« Reply #43 on: 2013 02 05, 06:14:55 »
Mudkipz keeps thinking that he can store anything he wants in his collective storage (and he does also :P ). Bla, your opinion?
So does Bong. My opinion is that in the long run, I want all resources in collective to be graphed. In the short run I'm sort of leninent towards it.

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« Reply #44 on: 2013 02 05, 19:50:33 »
good thing tommorow is always in the short run and such logic will cause lenience to last forever.

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« Reply #45 on: 2013 02 05, 21:22:03 »
hey, i would unlock some of the chest, or graph it, but i can't.

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« Reply #46 on: 2013 02 09, 20:35:03 »
everybody Bla added redstone we have to count that!!!

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« Reply #47 on: 2013 02 09, 20:40:18 »
omg stop lying

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« Reply #48 on: 2013 02 09, 22:04:43 »
to the total collective storage page

this one

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« Reply #49 on: 2013 02 10, 17:31:14 »
Actually, it looks like it's just Aahrus and Spawntown that count those, not sure if we need to count those or if its just those places that have a particularily high surplus.