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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #150 on: 2014 05 02, 13:10:00 »
Remember collective storages tomorrow

If Blotz hasn't counted his storage already, I can do it this month because he did it last month.

And Fiah if you haven't unlocked the chests in Revolt City's old storage (or reported its contents) and haven't reported the contents in the new storage if you have locked chests there, please do it.

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #151 on: 2014 05 03, 14:38:36 »
oh I havn't can you do it please?

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #152 on: 2014 05 03, 14:57:19 »
Yes

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #153 on: 2014 05 25, 13:52:17 »
Question on the new (for me) diamond equipment listing in the collective storage document, are we supposed to count what's in inventory or worn as well?

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #154 on: 2014 05 25, 17:25:27 »
Question on the new (for me) diamond equipment listing in the collective storage document, are we supposed to count what's in inventory or worn as well?
No

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #155 on: 2014 05 26, 04:01:11 »
Question on the new (for me) diamond equipment listing in the collective storage document, are we supposed to count what's in inventory or worn as well?
No

Okay.

*stuffs the loads of diamond picks into inventory* jk :D

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #156 on: 2014 05 26, 05:35:16 »
Yes I know that trick, but don't do that, then we'll just have to change the rules. :P

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #157 on: 2014 05 28, 17:30:51 »
Yes I know that trick, but don't do that, then we'll just have to change the rules. :P

I was joking and I'd have to remove them at some point anyway. I did have them in the inventory when I was counting them, but that was just to make the counting a bit easier and I was moving them from where I had them before.

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #158 on: 2014 06 05, 19:08:52 »
collectives in 2 days!

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #159 on: 2014 07 05, 19:15:02 »
Remember to update collective storages today!

The gold has been taken from the storages blaccording to the recent poll (the collective storages document has been updated with the gold changes):

Aahrus      29
Guodesia      1
Kaeshar      15
Kaktoland      79

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #160 on: 2014 12 06, 20:58:53 »
Updated collective storages doc using Kipz's new script. I manually transferred the data though so there may be errors, and ender chests aren't counted. Please check the doc to see if the values are correct. They should list all your locked chests, not just those in your collective storage. (It wasn't really legal to have locked chests outside them, but I realize not everyone has obeyed this)

Fiah didn't have a collective storage but it was found that he had 21 locked chests, so half of their contents have to be redistributed according to the UBSR laws, here they're listed as output from Kipz's script (bottom part just lists the individual chests and their contents). There's no need to worry about redistributing it for now, as we first need to set up a system for doing that, which would probably mean constructing the central UBSR collective storage.
However, I'd like to ask you to unlock the chests or say if you want to keep any of them locked which will be counted as collective storage in the future. (Updating the Google doc won't be necessary as Kipz's script should do that, however it's very tedious in the current state so I can't promise 100%, but at the least I can give people a list of all their locked items similar to the below)

Fiah's unlawfully locked items are here:

Code: [Select]
minecart : 4
glass bottle : 4
sandstone : 34
netherrack : 146
iron ore : 20
crafting table : 4
slimeball : 15
blaze powder : 7
stone brick : 140
wool : 60
chainmail boots : 1
pumpkin : 16
string : 10
dandelion : 7
nether brick : 164
cobblestone stairs : 5
snowball : 220
flint : 34
emerald : 3
bread : 27
melon seeds : 81
leather : 3
iron ingot : 23
rotten flesh : 43
end stone : 192
arrow : 55
poppy : 104
bone : 427
stone sword : 1
stone brick stairs : 14
oak stairs : 33
fence : 71
torch : 73
sign : 16
cactus : 90
redstone : 49
gold ingot : 4
sand : 139
ice : 34
glowstone : 49
wheat : 1
dirt : 3009
wooden door : 1
bow : 3
wooden pressure plate : 4
raw beef : 3
gold nugget : 13
boat : 2
packed ice : 39
baked potato : 34
trapdoor : 1
enchanted book : 1
stone slab : 160
glass : 3
oak sapling : 73
stick : 106
sulphur : 7
gravel : 170
bucket : 2
iron axe : 2
oak slab : 174
ink sack : 251
gold ore : 5
stone pressure plate : 1
white stained glass : 4
nether brick fence : 100
wheat seeds : 148
white stained clay : 320
snow : 16
chest : 1
gold leggings : 1
water bucket : 1
furnace : 33
glowstone dust : 5
potion : 13
sugarcane : 128
ladder : 200
rail : 3
diamond pickaxe : 2
cobblestone : 192
spider eye : 7
flint and steel : 3
ender pearl : 164
oak wood : 13
iron shovel : 2
coal : 25
glass pane : 13
blaze rod : 384
obsidian : 3
oak planks : 205
egg : 17

pos: 65 64 1309 0
bone : 4
sulphur : 2
rail : 1
dirt : 64
emerald : 3
oak planks : 7
arrow : 6
gold ingot : 4
redstone : 45
snowball : 1
gravel : 33
obsidian : 3
bow : 1
chest : 1
egg : 1
glass bottle : 4
string : 2
flint : 5
ink sack : 11
pos: 12 64 1278 0
ender pearl : 14
stone brick : 7
wooden door : 1
enchanted book : 1
gold ore : 5
rotten flesh : 6
snow : 16
sugarcane : 128
gold nugget : 11
cobblestone : 64
crafting table : 4
pos: 372 64 -212 0
dirt : 192
ladder : 100
sign : 1
oak sapling : 24
wooden pressure plate : 4
sand : 56
ender pearl : 132
bone : 57
flint and steel : 1
furnace : 14
ink sack : 3
pos: 5041 80 396 0
bread : 27
oak stairs : 33
arrow : 1
netherrack : 64
pos: 5035 80 396 0
white stained clay : 128
pos: 6 65 1311 0
dirt : 216
cobblestone : 15
poppy : 32
oak sapling : 13
wheat seeds : 11
coal : 12
snowball : 58
gravel : 1
rotten flesh : 8
sign : 2
diamond pickaxe : 1
end stone : 64
iron ore : 11
stone pressure plate : 1
pos: 65 66 1305 0
potion : 13
pos: 28 49 1255 0
bone : 256
ladder : 36
stone brick : 1
dirt : 128
oak planks : 15
snowball : 27
iron axe : 1
stone sword : 1
boat : 1
ender pearl : 2
stick : 28
wool : 24
egg : 16
gravel : 2
flint : 5
pos: 2811 64 -808 0
dirt : 136
stone brick : 64
flint and steel : 1
oak planks : 37
raw beef : 2
sand : 9
gravel : 1
leather : 1
nether brick fence : 100
wool : 11
oak slab : 110
pos: 136 68 842 0
glowstone : 49
dirt : 128
iron ingot : 23
glass pane : 13
wheat seeds : 64
pos: 37 78 1318 0
baked potato : 30
bow : 1
arrow : 45
pos: -473 68 1595 0
sulphur : 1
flint and steel : 1
poppy : 62
oak sapling : 36
ladder : 64
minecart : 3
stone slab : 12
melon seeds : 2
raw beef : 1
sand : 64
gravel : 1
ice : 34
chainmail boots : 1
dirt : 192
spider eye : 1
string : 7
gold leggings : 1
furnace : 1
flint : 20
ink sack : 127
pos: 65 64 1308 0
trapdoor : 1
sulphur : 2
cobblestone stairs : 2
sign : 2
oak wood : 1
oak planks : 2
poppy : 4
wheat seeds : 2
glowstone dust : 5
coal : 13
stone slab : 2
gravel : 64
rotten flesh : 8
cactus : 1
gold nugget : 2
pumpkin : 15
sandstone : 34
dirt : 233
furnace : 1
bow : 1
pos: 12 64 1279 0
bone : 64
sign : 4
arrow : 2
baked potato : 4
redstone : 4
gravel : 4
iron ore : 1
netherrack : 45
flint : 2
pos: 6 65 1310 0
bone : 3
stone brick : 2
dirt : 384
oak planks : 64
wheat seeds : 64
sand : 10
snowball : 96
cobblestone stairs : 3
pumpkin : 1
blaze powder : 7
end stone : 128
furnace : 11
flint : 2
dandelion : 2
pos: 2811 64 -809 0
iron shovel : 2
stone brick : 64
sign : 7
cobblestone : 68
water bucket : 1
stone slab : 82
boat : 1
packed ice : 39
iron ore : 8
nether brick : 164
dirt : 128
netherrack : 37
stone brick stairs : 14
oak slab : 64
pos: 5032 80 396 0
white stained clay : 192
pos: 373 64 -212 0
dirt : 960
arrow : 1
rotten flesh : 6
oak wood : 4
torch : 64
string : 1
pos: 34 67 1328 0
sulphur : 2
rail : 2
dirt : 70
cobblestone : 45
oak planks : 80
wheat seeds : 2
stone slab : 64
snowball : 6
iron axe : 1
rotten flesh : 2
oak wood : 8
torch : 4
stick : 78
stone brick : 2
ink sack : 22
white stained glass : 4
pos: 28 49 1254 0
dirt : 111
dandelion : 1
poppy : 6
melon seeds : 79
snowball : 32
gravel : 64
rotten flesh : 13
ender pearl : 16
cactus : 89
torch : 5
fence : 7
diamond pickaxe : 1
spider eye : 6
slimeball : 15
furnace : 6
ink sack : 1
pos: -473 68 1596 0
bone : 43
dirt : 67
bucket : 2
wheat seeds : 5
minecart : 1
leather : 2
blaze rod : 384
wool : 25
glass : 3
fence : 64
wheat : 1
dandelion : 4
ink sack : 87

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #161 on: 2014 12 06, 21:12:08 »
What is the script reading as being sulphur when it isn't actually a thing in vanilla MC?

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #162 on: 2014 12 06, 21:21:33 »
What is the script reading as being sulphur when it isn't actually a thing in vanilla MC?
Gunpowder

Here are the future plans for collective storages:

- Provided the script becomes efficient for updating, it should be possible to have decentralized private chests instead of collective storages. So you can lock chests anywhere.
- The script counts all items you've locked, so you don't have to do anything.
- A central collective storage (which we've discussed earlier) would be built, probably in Kaktoland. This isn't attached to any person, so items from it can only be polled out. And in a poll, these items are used before stuff from other people in UBSR. It would also accept donations, if people voluntarily want to donate stuff for projects. Confiscated items from previous inspections would also end up here.

You're welcome to discuss these ideas as I probably won't have time or manage to pull myself together to update the UBSR laws and build the central collective anytime soon plus it'd probably be best to finish work on the script before getting too excited over handing all the updates over to me. It took about 2 hours this time and I'm not too happy with having to dedicate that every month from now on, and if people get excited to store a lot more in collective it'll take even more time if the script isn't made to prepare the data for the Google doc format. (And even the Google doc format might also be worth reconsidering, gahh)
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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #163 on: 2014 12 06, 22:59:41 »
hmm, what took 2 hours? entering in the things? if it's just updates its one time and should be quick. anyways we can keep them in text format or you could paste them here and we can enter them in

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #164 on: 2014 12 07, 06:36:47 »
It took 2 hours to download the world, run the script for every person and then (most of the time) entering the values manually from output into spreadsheet. It's not really quick when you have to search through it to match hundreds of items.

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #165 on: 2014 12 07, 14:34:40 »
Uhh, so does that mean I should unprivate the chest that I have for valuables (mostly diamond armor, and some other stuff) which is currently privated?

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #166 on: 2014 12 07, 22:10:59 »
No need to.

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« Reply #167 on: 2015 01 03, 18:02:11 »
So Kipz's script is now working efficiently, and I've changed the UBSR law on collective storages. They're now defined as all chests you've created an LWC protection on, in any location in the game, and it is no longer necessary for people to update the Google doc, which I will update the first Saturday each month. The item library law has been removed as they're now obsolete, and their contents will automatically be added to the collective storages. People are still welcome to use signs/books for communication about the stuff in them ofc.
One thing to be aware of is that it's still recommended not to use the ender chests for long term storage, as Kip's script doesn't count their contents. They're still in a gray area.
http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Rules/Law_of_the_Union_of_Blacraft_Socialist_Regions

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #168 on: 2015 01 04, 14:48:08 »
Kip updated the script to include ender chest contents, so the law has been updated and there's no longer a problem with people storing items in ender chests.

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Re: Collective Storages
« Reply #169 on: 2015 03 08, 19:33:44 »
Here are some quick graphs on the total value of items in our collective storages since 2012. (I finished moving our 2012 data from the old sheet into the new sheet we started using in 2013).

Coal
Iron
Gold
Diamonds
Emeralds
Lapis Lazuli
Redstone
Glowstone
Obsidian
Bricks
Stone
Sandstone
Sand
Glass
Wool
Wood