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UBSR Law Discussion
« on: 2012 12 28, 11:47:03 »
Link to the laws of the UBSR:
http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Rules/Law_of_the_Union_of_Blacraft_Socialist_Regions

This thread is for discussing laws.



Wrote a new law:
http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Rules/Law_of_the_Union_of_Blacraft_Socialist_Regions#.C2.A72.2.1_Signs

Are people satisfied with the official format for our signs?
Like with the other rules on things like that, there's no punishment for not obeying them and there are still many old signs not using exactly that format, but over time I hope they'll be standardized to use it.

And another one:
http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Rules/Law_of_the_Union_of_Blacraft_Socialist_Regions#.C2.A73.2.1_Statistics

And another one:
http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Rules/Law_of_the_Union_of_Blacraft_Socialist_Regions#.C2.A73.3_Item_Libraries

Also, I wanted to know, what do people think of the idea of building a collective storage for the entire UBSR? The other collective storages will remain in place. But this storage is not attached to any region, so its contents can only be used through popular votes. Instead of confiscating items from inspections and redistributing them, they could be put in the UBSR collective. It would receive its resources from donations (which I and Yqt would have to manage), and there could be an option to prioritize it over the regional collectives in economic polls.

Also, I have been so kind to grant you a few more democratic rights in 1.2:

"Any changes to the laws made by Bla can be rejected through popular vote, and changes or additions to the laws can also be made by popular vote."

Now please get back to worshipping me.
« Last Edit: 2012 12 28, 12:15:17 by Bla »

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Re: UBSR Law Discussion
« Reply #1 on: 2012 12 28, 13:45:35 »
He, The Master of Bongatar, the greatest to Rise, Defeater of all but the Creator of the Universe, Dan Dixions, Worshipper of Bla, worships Bla.

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Re: UBSR Law Discussion
« Reply #2 on: 2012 12 28, 16:03:27 »
"Also, I wanted to know, what do people think of the idea of building a collective storage for the entire UBSR?"

where would it be located and how is it beneficial?

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Re: UBSR Law Discussion
« Reply #3 on: 2012 12 28, 16:05:20 »
I assume Spawntown if I would manage it, beneficial if people want to give resources directly to our large projects and an easier place to store confiscated stuff than redistributing.

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« Reply #4 on: 2012 12 28, 16:10:49 »
I vote no for this 1 main collective storage.
I think its to inconvienent.
It would also be unfair to 'rich' nations, as they would lose more than the poor ones, and would have to make polls and go back and forth and hope they win the poll, when they could just take it from their own collective.
I am okay with the confistication rule, as i usally don't ahve any typos in numbers.

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« Reply #5 on: 2012 12 28, 16:14:45 »
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It would also be unfair to 'rich' nations, as they would lose more than the poor ones, and would have to make polls and go back and forth and hope they win the poll, when they could just take it from their own collective.
wait why people with more resources have always funded large projects a larger percentage.... and everyone has to make polls if they want to get resources from collective... what???

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« Reply #6 on: 2012 12 28, 16:18:19 »
okay, this is like when i have a really good reason but i just can't explain it.
i just have a feeling in my bones. okay?
the top post is incorrect whatever

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Re: UBSR Law Discussion
« Reply #7 on: 2012 12 28, 16:26:03 »
Notice it's a feeling. It's not a rational reason. You need to ignore your feelings on issues and consider them rationally. Feelings don't matter.

I didn't see the points you were trying to make. Donating to it is voluntary, so rich regions only lose more if they choose to donate more themselves. By voting for "equally in %" rich regions already give more in absolute values, that's also only fair.

"Make polls go back and forth when they could just use their own", I see your point with this, but I simply don't see any reason why that would happen. People can already do that with all of our collective storages, vote 100 diamond blocks out to build their own little temple. But they don't, and they know that if they do, they won't win, and of course it makes no sense that people would make a poll over and over again to win. If necessary/if it happens we can just set limits on that, but I don't expect it to happen.

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« Reply #8 on: 2012 12 28, 16:28:12 »
So do i have to provide an explanation? As with the example of the diamond block, people could vote me down.

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Re: UBSR Law Discussion
« Reply #9 on: 2012 12 28, 16:30:10 »
You don't have to, it depends on whether you want to discuss it or not. If you want to discuss it just can't be based on feelings.

How is it a problem people could vote you down if you made a poll to take a diamond block?

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Re: UBSR Law Discussion
« Reply #10 on: 2012 12 28, 16:30:29 »
I don't mind the total collective storage no one can take from. It's a good place to put extra resources.

The signs bug me though, considering that I've done all the signs on my 5km of roads "wrong". :P

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Re: UBSR Law Discussion
« Reply #11 on: 2012 12 28, 16:33:49 »
The same is true for most of my roads to some extent. They can just be changed over time but it seems best to have a standard for the future so it won't take even more work to make them all the same.

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« Reply #12 on: 2012 12 28, 16:34:50 »
It is NOT  a problem. nvmnvm
just ignore the second part of the post.

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Re: UBSR Law Discussion
« Reply #13 on: 2014 01 30, 19:51:28 »
The laws have been updated, mainly rail laws and the economic laws slightly. The laws should allow more flexibility now.

http://blacraft.wikia.com/index.php?title=Rules%2FLaw_of_the_Union_of_Blacraft_Socialist_Regions&diff=4882&oldid=4832