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Stronghold and The End discussion
« on: 2012 12 21, 23:14:36 »
I decided to go spelunking in the area northwest of junglelot for reasons besides the fact that I might stumble onto the stronghold and after a while, I spotted something out of place in the caverns and right there was the stronghold!

I'll attempt to explore it and see if there's an end portal.

« Last Edit: 2012 12 27, 16:48:14 by smjjames »

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #1 on: 2012 12 21, 23:29:32 »
End portal sighted, and it is right near where I was.

The silverfish spawner doesn't exist anymore because it kept spawning them Tongue

Edit: looks like someone got there first, dunno who, and never reported the end portal, Fiah maybe.




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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #2 on: 2012 12 22, 00:33:32 »
...who...explored...that....before...and...did... not...tell...us...

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #3 on: 2012 12 22, 01:46:03 »
Ok, I'd prefer to avoid landclaims for now; but here are the rules I am judging them on.

1. The land remains in the ubsr. The other two strongholds are outside of the ubsr.
2. The owner is active and knows about stronghold mechanics and the end.
3. The owner is prepared to devote a ton of time getting it up in operation for the public.

So far, smjjames has credit for finding it. However, Im not super happy about the silver fish spawner being destroyed considering there is only three in the game
I'd like bla to get it but he seems too out of it. Quontex and i have strongholds already, but if completely necessary I'd be ok with taking control of it.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #4 on: 2012 12 22, 01:53:59 »
mememmememe
i devote tons of time
will make it into a complete base, since we might die in the end and have to respawn there. making a complete list later

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #5 on: 2012 12 22, 02:02:26 »
So far, smjjames has credit for finding it. However, Im not super happy about the silver fish spawner being destroyed considering there is only three in the game

I tried to use torches to stop them from spawning and it didn't seem to work for some reason, or maybe there were just lots of them. In any case, I had no idea if they kept spawning or if they were just being hard to kill.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #6 on: 2012 12 22, 02:26:49 »
smjjames, he is happy. he is just not SUPER heppy

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #7 on: 2012 12 22, 03:14:02 »
I wish people researched about the behaviours of silverfish and strongholds before trying to find one
 That is all I want.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #8 on: 2012 12 22, 06:13:05 »
Now that I am no longer typing on my smartphone keyboard, let me make a more descriptive post about everything.

It's great that the last stronghold has been actually discovered. I'll say that. It is the last unclaimed stronghold (other 2 being claimed by myself and Quontex, both without our knowing). The other 2 are not in UBSR territory though, with one being in UYP and the other in TME.

So the points to claim the stronghold:
1. The member has to be an active member of the server and the UBSR. This stronghold has to be in the UBSR.
2. This player has to be willing to build a ton of infrastructure and make it easily accessible to the public. This includes a user friendly layout and extending rail route 2 there.
3. This player should also have a knowledge about strongholds, end portals, silverfish and the end in general.

I've brought this up multiple times and have revived the stronghold swamp idea many times. I've mentioned that I think Bla should get it, depending on what he thinks. smjjames is next up for formally finding it. That is my opinion though.
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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #9 on: 2012 12 22, 23:06:28 »
After a conversation from Bla, it sounds like he wants to have it. Or at least have it reserved until he becomes more active.

So yeah, I'll work on getting my stronghold up for the public. We'll get to the end eventually, don't worry! :P

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #10 on: 2012 12 23, 03:36:12 »
Wait, YOUR strong hold? It doesn't even have an enderportal. But idk what you mean by public. I could go there at any moment

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« Reply #11 on: 2012 12 23, 05:10:16 »
Wait, YOUR strong hold? It doesn't even have an enderportal. But idk what you mean by public. I could go there at any moment

Both of your questions have been answered on this forum recently.

My stronghold doesn't have a end portal but there is a thread (mostly) dedicated to it.
And by public I mean making it easily accessible (rail route 5 extension). The rail route 5 extension also has been brought up on the forum recently and work has already begun.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #12 on: 2012 12 23, 13:15:35 »
It would be a lot easier if you specify, as there are 2 forums and 2 strongholds.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #13 on: 2012 12 25, 13:34:29 »
OK, I will start 'publizizing' the atronghold on Wednesday, MAX.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #14 on: 2012 12 25, 13:45:04 »
OK, I will start 'publizizing' the atronghold on Wednesday, MAX.

It's Bla's now so you'll have to bug him. :P

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #15 on: 2012 12 25, 16:08:43 »
Bla never said it was his so its no ones.

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« Reply #16 on: 2012 12 25, 16:20:07 »
I'll take control of it if ok. My future plans are to extend rail line 2 to it, build public infrastructure like storage nearby, and extend the road from Quonbla to it. Everyone will be able to use it eventually.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #17 on: 2012 12 25, 18:10:34 »
I did put a rudimentary storage in the portal room, it just contains random stuff.

For finding the location, see the small brown spot in the southern part of the swamp on the water? That's where the entrance I made is. Also, I secured the area around the entrance underground the best I could, but you know, wait til you see the crazy cave gen down there.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #18 on: 2012 12 25, 20:28:33 »
I found it from the coords on the image you posted. I built a public storage near the water, on the ground. I might continue work soon.
There's a small shelter with a bed I built into a cliff some time ago a bit north of the storage.
But yes a small village with public sleeping center, forge, station, mining central potentially, would be nice.

Line 2 ideas:
Blue Ink Factory - Earthquake Forest - Quonbla - Swamphold (- Jungelot - Darvwnse-a)
Blue Ink Factory - Earthquake Forest - Novascotchara - Jungelot - Swamphold

Potentially, one of the rails going the other way from Spawntown could be extended along the route going through Novascotchara, and head to Jungelot from there, then to Swamphold or Darvwnse-a. And line 2 could go through Quonbla and Mudkipzania instead. In any case, there are many unused routes heading south of Spawntown compared to north.

Maybe Swamphold should annex Jungelot, which would turn into the municipality Jungelot Cove, since it's small anyway.

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« Reply #19 on: 2012 12 25, 20:54:09 »
Rail route 2 should be expanded westward before route 3, 4 or 5. There isn't much in the way of new territory claims in the west and the remaining routes should be reserved for the east.

I like the idea of route 2 ending in darvwnse-a though.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #20 on: 2012 12 26, 00:51:02 »
I will stock that place with potions. 4-8 large chest should be good depensing on how many and wtich type of potion you guys want. Oh, and it also depends if you install staxkalne potions. :D

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #21 on: 2012 12 26, 17:24:30 »
The shelter in the hillside with the wood log fence? Yeah I saw that place, I thought maybe fiah had made it when he was looking for the stronghold over there.

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« Reply #22 on: 2012 12 26, 20:43:50 »
I picked up the ender pearls and eyes from Spawntown and Blue Bay publics and activated the portal.

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« Reply #23 on: 2012 12 26, 20:47:53 »
Is there any point in activating it now? Unless you want a single person or an unplanned group go in and kill the ender dragon. Its also pretty easy to fall into it by walking on the portal frames.

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« Reply #24 on: 2012 12 26, 20:57:27 »
I picked up the ender pearls and eyes from Spawntown and Blue Bay publics and activated the portal.
Is there any point in activating it now? Unless you want a single person or an unplanned group go in and kill the ender dragon. Its also pretty easy to fall into it by walking on the portal frames.

Overeager bla is overeager, lol.

You could temporarily block it off to keep anybody from accidentially falling in.

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #25 on: 2012 12 26, 21:30:34 »
* bong accidentally falls in

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Re: Unclaimed stronghold discovered!
« Reply #26 on: 2012 12 27, 16:47:44 »
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1609971-146-end-rendering-glitch/

We should wait for update.

James the Avenger please change the misleading title.

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #27 on: 2012 12 27, 16:52:12 »
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1609971-146-end-rendering-glitch/

We should wait for update.

James the Avenger please change the misleading title.

Agreed on waiting until an update, looks like it happens on even vanilla.

I changed the topic title.

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #28 on: 2012 12 27, 17:49:35 »
Since the ender dragon date will have to be moved into likely February, I'll get Mojikit Stronghold open to the public before the date. Benefits is that it's the closest stronghold to spawn.

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #29 on: 2012 12 27, 17:53:08 »
I doubt I can join before the summer vacation. Possibly spring break, but I don't even know when that is atm.
Doesn't summer sound most reasonable? Should be the least busy time for most people.

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« Reply #30 on: 2012 12 27, 17:59:59 »
I doubt I can join before the summer vacation. Possibly spring break, but I don't even know when that is atm.
Doesn't summer sound most reasonable? Should be the least busy time for most people.

It does sound most reasonable for most people, however it's the busiest time of the years for others (myself). :P Spring break changes depending on the school board so that is useless. We have a 3 day weekend in May to praise the British monarch so that'd work for me but that's a very localized holiday. :P

Also waiting until the summer is a long time to wait to build an enderman exp farm and relying on the slow blaze farm

Also, the longer the wait is the more likely it is someone will jump in and kill the ender dragon himself. Especially since you activated the portal already.
« Last Edit: 2012 12 27, 18:04:23 by yqt1001 »

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« Reply #31 on: 2012 12 27, 18:15:51 »
I doubt I can join before the summer vacation. Possibly spring break, but I don't even know when that is atm.
Doesn't summer sound most reasonable? Should be the least busy time for most people.

Yes, I think summer is the best time.
Maybe we can make a poll of when to do it (first generally) like summer, spring break, etc.
And there's also the problem of time zones, so we will have to decide that.
Anyone know about how long it takes to kill the enderdragon?

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« Reply #32 on: 2012 12 27, 18:25:34 »
Yes, I think summer is the best time.
Maybe we can make a poll of when to do it (first generally) like summer, spring break, etc.
And there's also the problem of time zones, so we will have to decide that.
Anyone know about how long it takes to kill the enderdragon?

Around 13:00 EST, 18:00GMT (the time of the posting of this post) on a weekend would be best. Unless we get an active Asian or Australian member in the next few months.

It takes about 40 minutes for a single person to kill the ender dragon, so it'd probably only take 30 minutes for a group. The killing of the ender dragon itself would only be 5-10 minutes, but getting everyone together will take a while. :P

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #33 on: 2012 12 27, 20:49:42 »
Kolok. But let's make sure everyone can get on at this time.
OK active mem. list, only 8 people.
Priority Order

1. Bla
2. Matty
3. Smjjames
4. Yqt
5. He, [b-ong]
6. Kip
7. Darvince
8. Nar/Nue

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #34 on: 2012 12 27, 20:59:04 »
Oh Bla, can you make it so that more people can join?
10 or 12 would be very helpful.

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #35 on: 2012 12 28, 00:24:26 »
That means I'd have to upgrade the server which would cost money.
I don't think I'm willing to pay that.

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« Reply #36 on: 2012 12 28, 00:28:00 »
OK. Do you agree to the list?
(i ask that to everyone in general)

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« Reply #37 on: 2012 12 28, 02:25:46 »
Yes, I think summer is the best time.
Maybe we can make a poll of when to do it (first generally) like summer, spring break, etc.
And there's also the problem of time zones, so we will have to decide that.
Anyone know about how long it takes to kill the enderdragon?

Around 13:00 EST, 18:00GMT (the time of the posting of this post) on a weekend would be best. Unless we get an active Asian or Australian member in the next few months.

It takes about 40 minutes for a single person to kill the ender dragon, so it'd probably only take 30 minutes for a group. The killing of the ender dragon itself would only be 5-10 minutes, but getting everyone together will take a while. :P

you know instead of guessing / estimating what we should do is have a thread where everyone lists the times that they can definetely be online, can maybe be online, and can not be online, and from that determine when everyone can be online

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« Reply #38 on: 2012 12 28, 03:01:36 »
Why not this thread?
We still have to decide: Spring Break or Summer.

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« Reply #39 on: 2012 12 28, 03:16:04 »
Why not this thread?
We still have to decide: Spring Break or Summer.

Spring break changes for everyone. For example, mine is mid-March whereas I know the main "US spring break" is 2 weeks later.

Summer break is also different. Mine is July, August and early September. I'd be ok with having it in June as I know I'll for sure be available on a weekend in June where I can't say the same for July or August.

Bla ultimately has the final decision and he'll probably do it on one of his breaks and they are likely also very different.

Another option that is the same for everyone is that specific unimportant holiday relating to zombies in April or March. March 31st.
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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #40 on: 2012 12 28, 10:42:05 »
Currently my school table may not be completed, but it seems like I have time:

Week 7 (02-09 until 02-17) - Winter break
Week 8 is an entire week for tests, so I have a feeling that week 7 will be stressful.
Week 13 (03-23 until 04-01) - Spring break
Then my summer "vacation" starts from 05-23, however, I don't know when the exams will be over. But I'm pretty sure they'll be over before July begins.
But I also hope that I can move somewhere else during the summer vacation. I guess I still have time.
I guess my summer vacation ends in August, beginning or mid.

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #41 on: 2012 12 28, 13:42:29 »
My school goes into a lot of June 9 (22nd) but I got hit by Sandy and we had a lot of no school days. But, I probably will be here June-August. As long as my parents don't have any plans.

Btw, I dreamed that me and the active people of the server (excluding BLA for some reason) went and killed the enderdragon irl. We had jetpacks and the enderdragon was flying above my house, and shooting 5 yard long heat seeking missles. I think i got majorly hurt, and then woke up :P

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« Reply #42 on: 2012 12 28, 16:13:36 »
Okay my weekends are:
(These are all Saturdays)
Italics means unsure and bold means 99% sure.

June: 29
July: 6, 13, 20, 27
August: 310, 17

So 5 super sure Saturdays.
[No idea how the table works so not trying]

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« Reply #43 on: 2012 12 28, 16:24:19 »
Bla seems to have a schedule that is closer to the US so, any time on his breaks are ok with me.

My March break is March 18th to March 24. I know I'm going to Toronto for a surgery sometime during this.
My summer vacation is June 26ish (not sure when exams end) to September 10th, I know I'm likely going to Europe for a week or so and then we do our usual camping for a few weeks at a time during the summer.

Some weekend in June would be good, or a weekend on Bla's March break. Personally, I'd be ok with missing school for it too. :P

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #44 on: 2012 12 28, 16:25:49 »
you know, listing the weekends like me would be a lot more clear.
kol @ missing school
Sugery? :I what for?

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #45 on: 2013 01 04, 23:50:58 »
Not sure how much Bla will like this, but I was downloading the nether and overworld anyways.

This is what we have in store for us...



...in the end.

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #46 on: 2013 01 05, 02:53:17 »
i don't think it matters, not like we can do anything about it :P

Oh yqt since you mapped 2 dimensions, maybe you could mapp the overworlds?
* bong is hopeful

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #47 on: 2013 01 07, 23:13:06 »
I'd like to get the End discussion going again. I'm probably not the only person here who's favourite dimension is the end and would do anything to get blacraft into it.

I'd still like to see it happen sometime in March. The 2 Saturdays in march that as far as I can tell work well for everyone is the 23rd and the 30th. It's likely that I'll spend the remainder of the weekend building an enderman exp farm, so the earlier the date is,  the sooner fast exp is. :P

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #48 on: 2013 01 08, 00:01:29 »
Okay my weekends are:
(These are all Saturdays)
Italics means unsure and bold means 99% sure.

June: 29
July: 6, 13, 20, 27
August: 310, 17

So 5 super sure Saturdays.
[No idea how the table works so not trying]

23 and 30, i can't be sure. I might be on vacation, as it's spring break.
But srsly, isn't the blaze farm fast enough :P.
 Everyone list your weekends please.

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Re: Stronghold and The End discussion
« Reply #49 on: 2013 01 08, 00:04:52 »
everyone start claiming your regions i call the solid looking chunks on the mid-north of the island.