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Title: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 08 31, 15:23:31
You must post here:
- If you found a new team. Remember to tell the name and flag.
- If you request to join a team.
- If you leave a team.
- If you want to rename your team or change your flag design. You can keep the current territories, but please limit your renaming etc. as much as possible.

- If you claim an unclaimed zone. Remember to tell the zone number, and posting a screenshot of the planted flag to prove your claim would be nice as well.
- If you want to relocate your base. Remember to tell the zone number you want to relocate to.
- If you want to attack an enemy zone. Remember to tell the zone number.
- Attackers and defenders of zones should organize when the battles happen here as well.
- The results of battles should also be announced here, remember the zone number, and including a screenshot of the flagpole after battle would be useful as well.

Zone number reference map:

(http://images.wikia.com/blacraft/images/6/60/The_Battleground_Zones_2.png)

So most recently,

Ahere Front changed name to The Lenin Front.
The Blue Front has claimed zone 30, 35 and 28.

So the map is currently:

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/blacraft/images/6/61/The_Battleground_20130831.png)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 08 31, 16:58:06
I verified the zones B-ong claimed, the flags are correctly placed. I see The Lenin Front has claimed zone 39 and 37.

I claim 25, 36 and 36 for Red Front. Now war is the only way for us to gain more zones.

(http://i.imgdiode.com/mPSEUv.png)
(http://i.imgdiode.com/fqZRor.png)
(http://i.imgdiode.com/qIKRht.png)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 08 31, 17:12:24
maybe a merged map of teams and zones?
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 08 31, 17:59:40
That would be the second one.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 08 31, 18:57:14
yeah just missed that XD
okay i claim zone 40, 42, and 44 for the Blue Front!
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: AeriOwl on 2013 09 01, 15:58:11
Now I'm stuck in a three-zone thing >:(
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 01, 16:05:30
i'm stuck in a 5 zone thing
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 01, 18:01:54
1. why are my flag and my team name on different zones???
also, change 40 to my capital
i got 40, 42, and 44 but still need to post the flags as said above
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 02, 04:42:29
You can't change 40 to your base, you can only relocate to adjacent zones, and the process takes 7 days.

Because there wasn't space for the team name on the zone, and it has no meaning where the name is placed, only the flag.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 02, 14:41:24
so move capital to 35!
also, no locked anything on the battleground right?
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 02, 17:03:19
I haven't made rules for that. I think it would be a good idea to have some sort of system allowing teams to have locked property, but I think it will result in a mess with the UBSR economy laws, so I would recommend just keeping the items in public/collective storage in Bongatar and move a few of them to the BG when needed, and store some at a base during war.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 02, 22:37:21
the flags
(http://i.imgur.com/J9imDeS.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/0qaMOSs.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/jeDBT3d.png)
the last one is zone 40


Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: AeriOwl on 2013 09 03, 18:01:54
attack zone 21 (perhaps on blaweekend?)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 03, 18:45:01
I am extremely busy atm, but I think the weekend would work, especially Friday evening or Saturday. You'll probably only be awake in my evening or morning. I'll propose Saturday, 19:00 UTC the battle starts, 19:30 UTC it ends.
http://time.is/UTC
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 03, 19:03:53
i'll request to be fiah's backup if i can >:D
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 03, 20:08:09
I'll allow Yqt to support me. >:D
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 03, 20:40:46
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*10^9001

edit: BLA YOU CAN'T
My proposal would be:

- People from all fronts can join the attaking/defending teams during a battle. They need permission to join from the front they want to support.

Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 04, 04:35:49
Yqt said he wanted to make his own front.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Darvince on 2013 09 04, 12:51:37
oshi-
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 04, 21:00:46
okay i won't complain that he didn't make it yet because then he'd just get it from me XD
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Darvince on 2013 09 05, 00:54:55
Now, all zones are full. All expansion must now be done by waiting ten thousand years for people to decide on a battle date.

(http://i.imgur.com/YBPvaJE.png)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 05, 01:13:14
fiah has started a forest fire in zone 41 that spread into zone 40 and burned down my flag. i demand he replaces all the trees to where they were and also puts my flag back to where it was.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 05, 09:56:41
fiah has started a forest fire in zone 41 that spread into zone 40 and burned down my flag. i demand he replaces all the trees to where they were and also puts my flag back to where it was.
If he started the forest fire, he should regrow some trees, yes. I suggest he gives you two fence and four blue wool blocks so you can place the flag yourself, he probably cannot remember the exact locations of everything he burned down. But he should get a warning from doing this, it's not acceptable at all.

Also I'd like if Fiah would confirm the battle time.

Yqt confirmed to me over Skype he wanted to join me. In any case I think I will simply reword the rules so that all people can join a battle instead of people from all fronts. I just hadn't thought of people who aren't in a front, but your front doesn't really matter when you're supporting another front in a battle anyway.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 05, 13:49:55
the blue wool is okay, i already have a lot
just grow trees and make sure their tall
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 05, 17:04:31
The battle for zone 21 is officially rescheduled to Sunday, 19:00 UTC to 19:30 UTC.

Darvince attacks zone 36 on Sunday, 18:00 UTC to 18:30 UTC.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: AeriOwl on 2013 09 05, 17:10:35
I would like to officially de-officialise the battle for zone 21 as i will not fight for it so can we stop that

I would instead like to battle for zone 28 against blotz
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 05, 17:12:12
attack 29
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 05, 17:14:01
Ok, the official battles are now:

Sequoia Front attacks zone 36 from Red Front on Sunday, 18:00 UTC to 18:30 UTC.
Confirmed attackers: Darvince
Confirmed defenders: Bla

You and blotz need to find a time for the battle then. I suggest Sunday, 19:00 UTC to 19:30 UTC since we know Fiah can battle at that time.
Oh and blotz's attack on zone 29, you can organize 2 battles.
Maybe make the battle for zone 28 Sunday, 18:00 UTC and 29 = Sunday, 19:00 UTC. If zone 28 is lost, the battle for zone 29 will be cancelled, and Fiah asked for the battle first so it's only fair to let battle for 28 happen before 29.

I'd like to support Fiah if I have time at the moment.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 05, 17:25:59
but i don't have 2 people on my side so you can't have 2 people on attacking
remember you're rule thingy
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 05, 17:27:38
I know, it was in the event that you found another person to support you in the battle. What do you think of the proposed times?

New map:

(http://images.wikia.com/blacraft/images/f/ff/The_Battleground_20130905.png)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 05, 20:51:03
alright, but just a note: after this week i won't be able to do sunday battles very often as i got enrolled in some project thingy. but saturday will be great.

ps. sunday is alright like at 20:00 utc but before that not really
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: yqt1001 on 2013 09 05, 20:58:24
If I start a new front, will I have to fight for the first zone?
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 05, 21:18:13
Yes; there are no more open zones.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 06, 04:31:33
If I start a new front, will I have to fight for the first zone?
You can start the front without having any zones, but if you wanted a zone, you would have to fight for it yes.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: atomic7732 on 2013 09 07, 03:11:40
So I heard there was a battle involving the Sequoia Front.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 07, 11:31:41
Ok, the official battles are now:

Sequoia Front attacks zone 36 from Red Front on Sunday, 18:00 UTC to 18:30 UTC.
Confirmed attackers: Darvince
Confirmed defenders: Bla

here it is atomic
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 07, 12:05:28
So I heard there was a battle involving the Sequoia Front.
Are you joining Darvince?
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: atomic7732 on 2013 09 08, 08:20:21
Yes.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Darvince on 2013 09 08, 08:21:05
bla can you move the battle up 30 minutes so that we don't have simultaneous battles
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 08, 10:11:15
Sequoia Front attacks zone 36 from Red Front on Sunday, 17:30 UTC to 18:00 UTC.
Confirmed attackers: Darvince, Atomic7732
Confirmed defenders: Bla, Yqt1001

Blotz and Fiah need to find out when their battles are going to happen.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 08, 12:00:35
thought it was 18:00 to 18:30 UTC
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 08, 13:10:04
thought it was 18:00 to 18:30 UTC
bla can you move the battle up 30 minutes so that we don't have simultaneous battles
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 08, 14:29:31
Yqt doesn't want to fight in the battle against Darvince, so Atomic can't join the battle unless someone else joins me in the battle.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 08, 14:33:59
um what's wrong? it won't be a simultaneous battle if one ends before the other?
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Darvince on 2013 09 08, 14:57:54
i meant move it into the future by 30 minutes to 18:30 to 19:00 UTC
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 08, 15:00:25
Sequoia Front attacks zone 36 from Red Front on Sunday, 18:30 UTC to 19:00 UTC.
Confirmed attackers: Darvince, Atomic7732
Confirmed defenders: Bla, Matty406

Btw I plan going to bed at 19:30 UTC, so the earlier for me the battle is the better. And Fiah and Blotz haven't seemed to decide when their battles should be yet.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 08, 18:05:20
The battle for zone 28 has officially been won by The Lenin Front. Congratulations to The Lenin Front.

For this reason, the battle for zone 29 has been cancelled, as The Blue Front can no longer reach the zone.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 08, 19:27:36
What a fight! Zone 36 has officially been defended by the Red Front.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Darvince on 2013 09 08, 19:37:59
I would like to schedule a battle for Zone 36 on Staturday/Sunday >:D
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 08, 21:07:55
I would like to schedule a battle for Zone 36 on Staturday/Sunday >:D
inb4 bla schedules a battle for zone 38 after that
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 09, 16:38:33
I would like to schedule a battle for Zone 36 on Staturday/Sunday >:D
Ok, I'll schedule a battle for zone 38 after that. >:D

I propose:

Zone 36, Saturday 14, 18:00 to 18:30 UTC
Zone 38, Saturday 14, 19:30 to 20:00 UTC

On Saturday, I'd prefer to end them before 21:00 UTC.
If you want them on Sunday, they'll have to end before 19:30 UTC.
They don't have to happen on the same day.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Komrage on 2013 09 09, 22:19:02
saturdays are preferable to me (not that it matters because i won't be battling unless someone else joins darvince's team or something, but being able to spectate would be nice, and i don't mean spectating through a youtube video).
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2013 09 09, 22:23:17
I'm joining darv just so I can battle
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 10, 14:55:49
Video of battle 2 for zone 36:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsBDXWlrEA

All battles involving Sequoia Front have been cancelled because it was disbanded.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2013 09 27, 14:03:20
Red Front claims zone 38.

Rest of Sequoia Front's flags have been removed.

(http://i.imgdiode.com/LYTiOR.png)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 02 22, 22:04:43
Today:

The Lenin Front attacks and claims Zone 42 from The Blue Front.

The Blue Front counterattacks Zone 42 in a battle with a dubious outcome:

There were some issues in this battle.

First of all, I forgot to start the clock when I began the battle, so I only turned it on after a few minutes. This means that the time left that I announced was off from the time that was meant to be left.

We also had a scheduled restart that delayed us by 25 seconds. Taking this into account, the flag of The Lenin Front burned down 30 minutes and 50 seconds after the battle start was announced. 7 seconds later, although not in the exact same location as the old flag, but still connected to the flagpole, TMC did manage to make a 2x2 blue flag.

An additional problem was that TMC tried to sleep in the bed that was the spawnpoint of The Lenin Front. The rules say:
Quote
Both teams should have beds in their zones, so that they will spawn inside their zones if they die.
In other words, you have to spawn within a zone your team owns during the battle, so sleeping in the enemy bed was breaking the rules.

Another problem is the rules on flag height:
Quote
The flagpoles in the region must not be taller than 20 meters from the ground, and the flag blocks may not exist outside y = 65 to y = 130. Additionally, sunlight must be able to reach the top of the flag.
http://blacraft.createaforum.com/the-battleground/battleground-information/msg1779/#msg1779 (http://blacraft.createaforum.com/the-battleground/battleground-information/msg1779/#msg1779)

I understand that Fiah didn't have time to check these rules when the battle was scheduled in 15 minutes, however I still think the rule can be considered in effect and thus violated.
I have checked the flag, and it was around y = 96, which is 32m above the water surface.

Because of this, I have decided to declare The Blue Front winner of the battle.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 02 23, 19:43:17
First battle for Zone 42:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYy7lBcIyuw

Recorded by Blotz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y8kSSEE6k8

Second battle for Zone 42:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eBVIflQwCk
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 02 25, 18:48:07
And for those who have a problem with the regular BG map

(http://i.imgdiode.com/ykIf7S.png)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 03 08, 20:45:58
The Lenin Front has successfully defended Zone 28 in an 1v1 fight between Fiah and Blotz.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 03 08, 21:42:49
The Blue Front has successfully defended Zone 30 against The Lenin Front in a fight between Bla, Blotz vs Fiah and Darvince.

The base of The Blue Front is now Zone 35.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 03 29, 21:52:42
Battle 7: The Lenin Front (Fiah, Bla) in Zone 39 warded off an attack from The Blue Front (Blotz, Mudkipz, Thomas) in Zone 35.

Battle 8: The Lenin Front (Fiah, Bla) counterattacked against Zone 35 from Zone 28, and conquered the zone from The Blue Front (Blotz, Mudkipz, Thomas).
Since this was the base zone of The Blue Front, The Lenin Front gains all the current zones of The Blue Front.

Battle 9: The Red Front (Bla, Mudkipz, Ventus) attacked and conquered Zone 29 from The Lenin Front (Fiah, Blotz, Thomas).
Since this was the base zone of The Lenin Front, The Red Front gains all the zones in the Battleground.

And I/Bla decides to give most of the zones of the former Lenin Front to The Blue Front. (I hope Naru and Mudkipz are ok with that)

Here's an album with maps showing what happened today:
http://imgdiode.com/XXKT8A,lV9gR2,z3CcMq,Wyv7bA,60I0W7,ZgZkFt,tFlYhT

As a result, the new BG map looks like this.

(http://i.imgdiode.com/tFlYhT.png)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 04 14, 01:59:05
Battle 10: The Blue Front (Lotzubutt, Darvince and Fiahstorm) attacked Zone 21, defended by Red Front (Blanoxium, Mudkipz and Ventus). Red Front successfully defended the zone.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 05 31, 19:53:04
Battle 11: The Blue Front (Lotzubutt, Thomas13542) attacked Zone 21, defended by Red Front (Blanoxium, Fiahstorm). Red Front successfully defended the zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAxEAootoCg
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 06 13, 22:45:08
Battle 12: Red Front (Blanoxium, Mudkipz, Soccerboy, Smjjames) from Zone 38 attacked Zone 41, defended by The Blue Front (Lotzubutt, TheMooCows, Yqt1001). The Blue Front successfully defended the zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHiCg7q9qfs
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2014 06 24, 23:47:38
move capital to 40
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 06 27, 23:32:14
Battle 13: The Blue Front (TheMooCows, Yqt1001) from Zone 0 attacked Zone 26, defended by Red Front (Blanoxium, Ventus). Red Front successfully defended the zone.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 06 28, 22:41:23
Battle 14: Revolutean Front (Fiahstorm, Matty406) from Zone 0 attacked Zone 27, defended by Red Front (Blanoxium, Ventus).

They replaced the flag, but the victory is disputed. They used an obsidian skypillar just below flag height from the Start zone, but it went through Zone 32 owned by Red Front. As it is against the rules to interact with blocks in other zones and their victory relied on it, I'm considering if the victory should be revoked.
I think making exceptions is a bad idea - if you're in doubt, stay safe or check the borders on the map before the battle.
What do you people think?

(http://i.imgur.com/BxvT1xm.png)
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Komrage on 2014 06 29, 13:45:21
remove the offending blocks and resume the battle with the amount of time left.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: AeriOwl on 2014 06 29, 14:39:39
Due to the fact that the zones are weirdly shaped (it'd be more fair if all zones were more smooth) I think I should get it.

I mean, it was REALLY close. And If I were to have made a bend northwards 1-2 blocks it would have had little to no effect on my victory.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Darvince on 2014 06 29, 14:52:13
I inspected the area and found that the border which Bla claimed was clearly visible is not in fact clearly visible, so I think it should be given to Fiah. Although I do like kip's idea.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 06 29, 19:22:51
I inspected the area and found that the border which Bla claimed was clearly visible is not in fact clearly visible, so I think it should be given to Fiah. Although I do like kip's idea.
In fact? How do you determine this 'fact'? 'Clearly' is a subjective word.
I think it was clearly visible because it follows the terrain, as it follows the side of a cliff.
Had this been a battle at ground level, you would know one side was another zone, and the other side was the zone.
It's not my problem if people make a sky bridge but don't check that the sky bridge is inside the zone.

However, over the past days, I've become convinced that The Battleground needs some serious rule changes, because the battles are really not meant to be fought on sky bridges, but at ground level, and the bases are not meant to be so overpowered like in the battle with TMC and Yqt, that the attackers have virtually no chance to get into it. (However, I think spending 4 hours or more on defenses, should pay off by not giving a plain 50/50% chance of losing it in just one 20 minute battle, but the attackers should still have a better chance than what Yqt and TMC had, and if the zone they attacked gets attacked, I will downgrade the base before the battle, at the very least by moving defense spawn to ground level).

Due to the fact that the zones are weirdly shaped (it'd be more fair if all zones were more smooth) I think I should get it.
The zones were originally drawn so they followed terrain features, like cliffs. Smooth borders might be easier to imagine geometrically, but be harder to recognize from terrain features. Anyway, I won't change the borders now, as too many things rely on them now, sorry.
I think you could've looked at the map before battle so you could know the shape of the zone. It was clear from your chat messages long before the battle that you weren't going to deal with the ground defenses, so I suppose you had plenty of time to check if your straight line skybridge would intersect with the other zone while planning.

I mean, it was REALLY close. And If I were to have made a bend northwards 1-2 blocks it would have had little to no effect on my victory.
Maybe. We can't know.

I've decided to revoke the victory and that Red Front will keep the zone. However, I'll let Fiah have a rematch for the zone if he desires, without Red Front improving the defenses/changing blocks there before the battle, except that the skybridge will be removed and the battle will be fought according to new rules banning skybridges. I haven't written out the new rules yet, only a rough sketch for its elements, so the defenses may be downgraded if the new rules make ristrictions on it, but they will not be improved.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: AeriOwl on 2014 06 30, 21:10:20
However, I'll let Fiah have a rematch for the zone if he desires

Nahh, that zone is pretty much a fortress and I don't think I could conquer it ground-way.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: yqt1001 on 2014 07 02, 21:21:54
As far as rules for defenses go, I think banning all obsidian is all you really need to do. Banning lava and water would reduce the lag, which is obviously a problem, but I'm not sure how big of a difference it would make.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2014 07 02, 22:00:54
As far as rules for defenses go, I think banning all obsidian is all you really need to do. Banning lava and water would reduce the lag, which is obviously a problem, but I'm not sure how big of a difference it would make.
Fair enough, it's worth considering, but I suggest watching some of our older BG battles for obsidian bases. Didn't they seem fair enough?
I've spent probably 1+ day gathering all the obsidian and constructing the obsidian towers, so I'm not very fond of going ahead to ban obsidian immediately, when we've also seen that battles for obsidian bases can be fair. With the new rule changes, I think we should try another game and see what happens.

These:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsBDXWlrEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAxEAootoCg
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2015 07 11, 20:33:33
Battle 15: Red Front (Bla, Komrage, Ventus) from Zone 25 attacked Zone 28, defended by The Blue Front (Blotz, TheMooCows, Tuto). Red Front successfully conquered the zone.

(http://i.imgur.com/j4XoFGP.png)

And the vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b4ca11IBWg
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: b-ong on 2015 07 13, 02:31:15
dat crosskill. also ouch that rain. GG
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2016 07 31, 20:25:21
Battle 16: Revolutean Front (Fiahstorm, Blotz) from Zone 26 attacked Zone 16, defended by Red Front (Bla, Komrage). Revolutean Front successfully conquered the zone.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Darvince on 2016 08 05, 10:58:44
if the revolutean front successfully conquered zone 9 would all the red front zones to the south become part of the revolutean front or what would happen to them
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Bla on 2016 08 05, 21:45:40
They would.
Title: Re: Battleground Log
Post by: Komrage on 2016 08 06, 03:50:44
inb4 a high stakes battle for zone 9 takes place